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Author Topic: Can anyone plz help me about Isolation method  (Read 767 times)
nadia
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« on: May 26, 2007, 12:30:36 PM »

Can anyone please tell me how to stop the ragged extra pixels i am getting in my isolation work. My method is


Draw just inside image (removing the feathering area) with pen


Make selection from path


inverse the selection


delete background


Sometimes it works well othe times I get the effect shown in the pic at


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5849304&size=lg


Thanks

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umer
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 12:31:28 PM »

I always use the lasso tool with a layer mask. I work on small sections at a time and adjust the feather of the lasso depending on how sharp or in focus the edge is. With the layer mask you can go back and paint with different brushes the feathered edge until it looks natural. It takes more time but you have more control. Most subjects have different levels of edge feather depending on the dof, movement and material of the subject. I usually work on the image at %300 or higher. Looking at the example you gave I can see straight lines on his face and also part of the background showing on the top of his hat. With a layer mask you can go back and smooth the area around his face. Also, and most importantly, with the layer mask if you make a mistake you can just add the background back and try again.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 12:37:00 PM »

Umer, I'd agree with most of Nadia's advice. I would however, stick to your pen tool - making sure you're zoomed in to at least 300% - as it does a much better job of rounded areas than the brushes. And get to love layer masks - they are truly invaluable. My advice is as follows:

1. Duplicate the background layer. Turn off the background layer - click on the eye to hide it.

2. Use pen tool (at least 300%) to select your object. I like to follow the edges whenever possible (you don't have to work inside the edges.....) Take your time - the better job you do with your pen, the better the result. Convert the path to a selection.

3. Create a layer mask from your selection (click on the layer mask button at the bottom of the layers palette) Doing this isolates your image in a non-destructive manner - that is, you're not losing any pixels but simply hiding or showing them. If you delete you are losing those pixels, or information, forever - not recommended.

4. Use your brush to touch-up any areas by painting on the layer mask. (black brush = hide pixels, white brush = show/reveal pixels)

Layer masks are fantastic as you are always able to go back and do any changes as you see necessary. If you are adding a background to it, try using your blur tool on the layer mask to help the image blend into the background more effectively. Again, if you make a mistake, use your brushes to hide/reveal or fill the entire mask with white and start over.

Try the following site for a very simple example. Scroll down to PEN TOOL technique.

http://www.sitepoint.com/print/masking-techniques-photoshop

Hope this helps. Good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2007, 12:38:24 PM »

it's a good idea to include the path in your actual image.

When I buy isolated image, I'm more likely to buy the image with the path as it makes my job so much easier.

Before you delete the background, after making a selection from your path, make sure to expand the path 1 or 2 pixels, that way when it comes time for other designers to use your image, there won't be an unsightly white edge once they remove the white bacground.

A good path takes patience. you need to more careful, especially around the ears and hair.
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